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: We must remember that the original prints drawn by W.W.H., and I think that is William Hill, are 7-1/4. The prints from Paul are 7-1/2. You need to adjust accordingly.
: We must remember that the original prints drawn by W.W.H., and I think that is William Hill, are 7-1/4. The prints from Paul are 7-1/2. You need to adjust accordingly.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77q0OE40E-Q From <i>Mill Brook Railroad</i> Youtube page]:
: This 2-6-0 locomotive was built in 1962 for the late Dwight Winkley of Danvers, MA and Ossipee, NH. it ran on his [[Ossipee Central Railway]] from 1970 until some time in the last five years. It was designed by [[Charles A. Purinton|Carl Purinton]] of Marblehead, MA. [[Pershing Scott]] built the first one, which is how the locomotive design came to be known as "The Scotty Mogul."
: In the mid-1960's, Al Rothsmel, a hobby machinist in Marblehead, MA, ordered a pallet load of boilers from England and built the running gear for four or five 2-6-0 Scotty Moguls.


== Construction ==
== Construction ==
 
[[File:GregGlos ScottyMogul 2-6-0.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Greg Glos built this Scotty Mogul based on Paul's version]]
[https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109947 Scott Reedy wrote]:
[https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109947 Scott Reedy wrote]:


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: If you can't find the castings, you could machine the cylinders out of a solid block of cast iron, you could make the lead truck wheels from solid steel and either cut the holes/slots in them or leave them solid. Railroad Supply has 6 inch drive wheel castings for their 0-4-0 that look pretty close and would work fine for this locomotive. They are available in heavy and light versions, and the light version would be pretty close to what these castings are like.
: If you can't find the castings, you could machine the cylinders out of a solid block of cast iron, you could make the lead truck wheels from solid steel and either cut the holes/slots in them or leave them solid. Railroad Supply has 6 inch drive wheel castings for their 0-4-0 that look pretty close and would work fine for this locomotive. They are available in heavy and light versions, and the light version would be pretty close to what these castings are like.
[[Greg Glos]] graciously provided his detailed build notes of the [[Scotty Mogul]]. It is several pages of notes and shows that he took about 24 months and about 1,200 hours (and a knee surgery) to build the locomotive and tender.
* [http://ibls.org/files/drawings/Scotty_Mogul/Light%20Mogul%20Construction%20Notes-%20Greg%20Glos.pdf Light Mogul Construction Notes by Greg Glos (PDF)]


== Drawings ==
== Drawings ==
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<gallery widths=300px heights=300px perrow=2>
<gallery widths=300px heights=300px perrow=2>
File:CarlPurintons LightMogul NELS Past 1B6.jpg|Carl Purinton's original Light Mogul.
File:CarlPurintons LightMogul NELS Past 1B6.jpg|Carl Purinton's original Light Mogul.
File:CarlPurinton Mogul SecondLoco JohnForsythe 20160511.jpg|John Forsythe now owns Carl's original Light Mogul (second engine in the photo)
File:Brien 2-6-0.jpg|Paul Brien's build of the "Scotty" Mogul 2-6-0.
File:Brien 2-6-0.jpg|Paul Brien's build of the "Scotty" Mogul 2-6-0.
File:GregGlos ScottyMogul 2-6-0.jpg|Greg Glos built this Scotty Mogul based on Paul's version
File:ScottyMogul WayneDavis.JPG|Wayne Davis' "Scotty" Mogul at Iowa Model Steam Engineers meet.
File:ScottyMogul WayneDavis.JPG|Wayne Davis' "Scotty" Mogul at Iowa Model Steam Engineers meet.
File:ScottyLightMogul benchtop.jpg
File:ScottyLightMogul benchtop.jpg
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File:ScottyMogul driver.jpg|Driver of a Scotty Mogul.
File:ScottyMogul driver.jpg|Driver of a Scotty Mogul.
File:Three Scotty Moguls with Wayne Davis.PNG|The front green Mogul was made by [[Pershing Scott|Scotty]], and the last one is Wayne Davis' (based on [[Paul Brien]]'s drawings) running before it was finished. The middle engine was built by an Iowa Model Steam Engineers club member.
File:Three Scotty Moguls with Wayne Davis.PNG|The front green Mogul was made by [[Pershing Scott|Scotty]], and the last one is Wayne Davis' (based on [[Paul Brien]]'s drawings) running before it was finished. The middle engine was built by an Iowa Model Steam Engineers club member.
File:Dwight Winkley with Carl Purinton designed Mogul.jpg|Dwight Winkley with his Carl Purinton designed 2-6-0 Mogul. Photo by Bob Hornsby, taken at Roy Spencer's track, Danvers, MA, 6 Sep 1986.
</gallery>
</gallery>


== Video ==
[https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109947&start=24 Wayne Davis wrote]:
[https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109947&start=24 Wayne Davis wrote]:


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<youtube>ZPqUCaMER30</youtube>
<youtube>ZPqUCaMER30</youtube>
== Restoration ==
<youtube>77q0OE40E-Q</youtube>


== External Links ==
== External Links ==


* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109947 "Searching for 2-6-0 "Scotty" Mogul Drawings", <i>chaski.org</i>]
* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109947 "Searching for 2-6-0 "Scotty" Mogul Drawings", <i>chaski.org</i>]

Latest revision as of 13:14, 6 September 2023

Erection drawing for the "Scotty" Light Mogul

The Scotty Mogul is a 1.5 inch scale Light Mogul. The model has been described as small, compact, with plenty of power.

The original was designed by Carl Purinton. Pershing "Scotty" Scott built one, from which the model took its name. Paul Brien made improvements to the design and created new drawings in CAD software.

Specifications

  • Bore: 1-3/4 inch
  • Stroke: 2-3/4 inch
  • Drive wheel diameter: 6 inches
  • Lead truck wheel diameter: 3 inches
  • Boiler diameter: 7 inches ID
  • Overall length: 44 inches
  • Weight: Approximately 300 pounds

History

Scott Reedy wrote:

Paul Brien of Nashville, TN drew up the Scotty Mogul in CAD and did a lot of redesign to it. The redesign wasn't to change any of the cosmetics, it was to beef up a few areas, especially the rods and crosshead support members, etc. The original rods were thinner, and Paul redesigned them to be 1/4 inch thickness, among a few other small things. He made detailed drawings, and they are absolutely great, even down to the boiler plates and how they have to be cut so that the bends will come out properly.
I actually have an original set of the Scotty Mogul drawings, but I wouldn't use them. I would use the updated Paul Brien drawings or nothing. I have seen no fewer than 4 of these Moguls built using Paul's drawings and they all were great steamers and runners, good pullers for their size, sure footed and not prone to derailing.
Unfortunately, Paul's computer crashed and wiped out his CAD files for the locomotive. I do have all of his paper drawings scanned, and I have sent them to the IBLS so that they can post them. Unfortunately, the drawings for the tender didn't get saved or printed, except for the arrangement for the mechanical brake system that Paul designed. It has shoes that press against the backs of the tender wheels. It's simple and works great.

Marty Knox wrote:

Carl Purinton was the designer of the original. Scotty built one, but Carl had built one before him. I think there was something about it in The North American Live Steamer.

ALCOSTEAMER wrote:

At least one set of our Scotty Mogul drawings are dated in the late 1930's.

John Rukgaber wrote:

We must remember that the original prints drawn by W.W.H., and I think that is William Hill, are 7-1/4. The prints from Paul are 7-1/2. You need to adjust accordingly.

From Mill Brook Railroad Youtube page:

This 2-6-0 locomotive was built in 1962 for the late Dwight Winkley of Danvers, MA and Ossipee, NH. it ran on his Ossipee Central Railway from 1970 until some time in the last five years. It was designed by Carl Purinton of Marblehead, MA. Pershing Scott built the first one, which is how the locomotive design came to be known as "The Scotty Mogul."
In the mid-1960's, Al Rothsmel, a hobby machinist in Marblehead, MA, ordered a pallet load of boilers from England and built the running gear for four or five 2-6-0 Scotty Moguls.

Construction

Greg Glos built this Scotty Mogul based on Paul's version

Scott Reedy wrote:

If you want to build this locomotive, then go ahead and start. I don't think you need these castings at all, other than the wheels. The whole set of castings is nothing more than 2 cylinders, 6 drive wheels, and 2 lead truck wheels. Everything else is fabricated.
If you can't find the castings, you could machine the cylinders out of a solid block of cast iron, you could make the lead truck wheels from solid steel and either cut the holes/slots in them or leave them solid. Railroad Supply has 6 inch drive wheel castings for their 0-4-0 that look pretty close and would work fine for this locomotive. They are available in heavy and light versions, and the light version would be pretty close to what these castings are like.

Greg Glos graciously provided his detailed build notes of the Scotty Mogul. It is several pages of notes and shows that he took about 24 months and about 1,200 hours (and a knee surgery) to build the locomotive and tender.

Drawings

Drawings can be downloaded from here: IBLS - Scotty Mogul Drawings. All drawings are in PDF format.

Photo Gallery

Video

Wayne Davis wrote:

Here are three Scotty Moguls triple heading at an Iowa Model Steam Engineers meet. I don't remember who sent me the video. The one Scotty built is in the lead, John Rukgaber's in the middle, and mine under construction in the rear.

Restoration

External Links