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[[File:NormSteele No711 WalterKleinfelder JerseyLS 1960s LSJune1980.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Norman Steele at the throttle of his 4-4-2 Atlantic, talking to Walter Kleinfelder at the New Jersey Live Steamers, sometime in the 1960's.]] | [[File:NormSteele No711 WalterKleinfelder JerseyLS 1960s LSJune1980.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Norman Steele at the throttle of his 4-4-2 Atlantic, talking to Walter Kleinfelder at the New Jersey Live Steamers, sometime in the 1960's.]] | ||
: This story starts back in the 1930's when the [[New England Live Steamers]] in Danvers, Massachusetts and club activities were in its infancy. [[Norman Steele|Norm Steele]], an engineer on the Old Colony division later taken over by the New Haven R.R., started building miniature Live Steam locomotives to scale from 1/2 inch scale into 3/4 inch scale, of which he built and sold many. One went far west to Colorado to a gentleman by the name of [[Arthur Wegner]], an engineer on one of the railroads in that area. Norm built two in 1 inch scale and, as the photo below shows, built one in 1.5 inch scale to 7-1/4 inch gauge. Norm built these locomotives from scratch and used no prints of any type. He used scrap box material and came up with very well proportioned locomotives. The picture shows Norm sitting on the 711 talking to Walter Kleinfelder of the [[New Jersey Live Steamers]] club back in the 1960's. This is one of the first engines in 7-1/4 inch gauge to run at the [[Pioneer Valley Live Steamers]] club and has an interesting background. Using no prints of any kind this Atlantic has 10 inch drivers with a 10 inch copper boiler. The cylinders came from an old Stanley steamer and were modified for a locomotive. It has [[Southern valve gear]] which was his favorite gear and the pump shown on the side came from the same Stanley steamer and was converted into an air pump. At that time we know of no other 4-4-2 type locomotive that had the pulling power that the 711 had. This engine is now close to 20 years old and its present owner is Pete Whitman, past president of the [[Pioneer Valley Live Steamers]] club. Norm passed away in the late 1960's just as he was eligible for retirement. | : This story starts back in the 1930's when the [[New England Live Steamers]] in Danvers, Massachusetts and club activities were in its infancy. [[Norman Steele|Norm Steele]], an engineer on the Old Colony division later taken over by the New Haven R.R., started building miniature Live Steam locomotives to scale from 1/2 inch scale into 3/4 inch scale, of which he built and sold many. One went far west to Colorado to a gentleman by the name of [[Arthur Wegner]], an engineer on one of the railroads in that area. Norm built two in 1 inch scale and, as the photo below shows, built one in 1.5 inch scale to 7-1/4 inch gauge. Norm built these locomotives from scratch and used no prints of any type. He used scrap box material and came up with very well proportioned locomotives. The picture shows Norm sitting on the 711 talking to Walter Kleinfelder of the [[New Jersey Live Steamers]] club back in the 1960's. This is one of the first engines in 7-1/4 inch gauge to run at the [[Pioneer Valley Live Steamers]] club and has an interesting background. Using no prints of any kind this Atlantic has 10 inch drivers with a 10 inch copper boiler. The cylinders came from an old Stanley steamer and were modified for a locomotive. It has [[Southern valve gear]] which was his favorite gear and the pump shown on the side came from the same Stanley steamer and was converted into an air pump. At that time we know of no other 4-4-2 type locomotive that had the pulling power that the 711 had. This engine is now close to 20 years old and its present owner is Pete Whitman, past president of the [[Pioneer Valley Live Steamers]] club. Norm passed away in the late 1960's just as he was eligible for retirement. | ||
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File:PVLS New Haven ebay Oct 1961.jpg|Norman Steele's New Haven locomotive at Pioneer Valley Live Steamers track. From eBay, August 2020. Seller stated photo was taken October 1961. | |||
File:New Haven 711 no rider PVLS Oct 1961 ebay.jpg|Norman Steele's New Haven locomotive at Pioneer Valley Live Steamers track. From eBay, August 2020. Seller stated photo was taken October 1961. | |||
File:New Haven 711 at PVLS Oct 1961.jpg|Norman Steele's New Haven locomotive at Pioneer Valley Live Steamers track. From eBay, August 2020. Seller stated photo was taken October 1961. | |||
File:Norman Steele 4-4-2 No 1101 NELS 1945.PNG|Norman Steele running his 3-1/2 inch gauge 4-4-2 #1101 at NELS Meet, Danvers, MA, 1945 (Screenshot photo from YouTube video). | |||
File:Norman Steele 4-4-2 No 1101 NELS 1945 - 2.png|Norman Steele running his 4-4-2 #1101 at NELS Meet, Danvers, MA, 1945 (Screenshot photo from YT video). From Ken Scheer. | |||
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== 711 Restored == | == 711 Restored == | ||
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Pat Fahey wrote, 25 January 2020: | Pat Fahey wrote, 25 January 2020: | ||
: When Joe Cardelle | : When Joe Cardelle went down to meet Pete Whitman, to buy his 1 inch scale 2-8-2 Mikado, Joe saw [[Norman Steele]]'s No 11 Atlantic sitting in Pete's garage, the smokebox was rotten out, it needed work, etc. | ||
: Joe asked me if I knew anything about the locomotive, but all I had were just a few photos of it at [[Pioneer Valley Live Steamers|PVLS]]. | : Joe asked me if I knew anything about the locomotive, but all I had were just a few photos of it at [[Pioneer Valley Live Steamers|PVLS]]. | ||
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File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 PreRestoration.JPG|Norman | File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 PreRestoration.JPG|Norman Steele's Atlantic No 711 prior to restoration. | ||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 PostRestoration.JPG|No. 711 after restoration by Joe Cordelle. | File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 PostRestoration.JPG|No. 711 after restoration by Joe Cordelle. | ||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 JoeCordelle.JPG|Joe Cordelle enjoys a run on Norman | File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 JoeCordelle.JPG|Joe Cordelle enjoys a run on Norman Steele's fully restored Atlantic No 711. | ||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 byPatFahey 1.JPG|New Haven No 711 Atlantic 4-4-2 in 1.5 inch scale, 7.25 inch gauge, built by Norman Steele, restored by Joe Cardelle. Photo by Pat Fahey. | File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 byPatFahey 1.JPG|New Haven No 711 Atlantic 4-4-2 in 1.5 inch scale, 7.25 inch gauge, built by Norman Steele, restored by Joe Cardelle. Photo by Pat Fahey. | ||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 byPatFahey 2.JPG|Photo by Pat Fahey. | File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 byPatFahey 2.JPG|Photo by Pat Fahey. | ||
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File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 RetubingBoiler2.JPG | File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 RetubingBoiler2.JPG | ||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 RetubingBoiler3.JPG | File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 RetubingBoiler3.JPG | ||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 Reassembly1.JPG|Reassembly of No. 711. | |||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 Reassembly2.JPG | |||
File:NormanSteels Atlantic711 Reassembly3.JPG | |||
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Latest revision as of 22:58, 8 May 2021
Brenton Barnfather wrote the following in Live Steam Magazine, June 1980:
- This story starts back in the 1930's when the New England Live Steamers in Danvers, Massachusetts and club activities were in its infancy. Norm Steele, an engineer on the Old Colony division later taken over by the New Haven R.R., started building miniature Live Steam locomotives to scale from 1/2 inch scale into 3/4 inch scale, of which he built and sold many. One went far west to Colorado to a gentleman by the name of Arthur Wegner, an engineer on one of the railroads in that area. Norm built two in 1 inch scale and, as the photo below shows, built one in 1.5 inch scale to 7-1/4 inch gauge. Norm built these locomotives from scratch and used no prints of any type. He used scrap box material and came up with very well proportioned locomotives. The picture shows Norm sitting on the 711 talking to Walter Kleinfelder of the New Jersey Live Steamers club back in the 1960's. This is one of the first engines in 7-1/4 inch gauge to run at the Pioneer Valley Live Steamers club and has an interesting background. Using no prints of any kind this Atlantic has 10 inch drivers with a 10 inch copper boiler. The cylinders came from an old Stanley steamer and were modified for a locomotive. It has Southern valve gear which was his favorite gear and the pump shown on the side came from the same Stanley steamer and was converted into an air pump. At that time we know of no other 4-4-2 type locomotive that had the pulling power that the 711 had. This engine is now close to 20 years old and its present owner is Pete Whitman, past president of the Pioneer Valley Live Steamers club. Norm passed away in the late 1960's just as he was eligible for retirement.
Norman Steele's New Haven locomotive at Pioneer Valley Live Steamers track. From eBay, August 2020. Seller stated photo was taken October 1961.
Norman Steele's New Haven locomotive at Pioneer Valley Live Steamers track. From eBay, August 2020. Seller stated photo was taken October 1961.
Norman Steele's New Haven locomotive at Pioneer Valley Live Steamers track. From eBay, August 2020. Seller stated photo was taken October 1961.
Norman Steele running his 3-1/2 inch gauge 4-4-2 #1101 at NELS Meet, Danvers, MA, 1945 (Screenshot photo from YouTube video).
Norman Steele running his 4-4-2 #1101 at NELS Meet, Danvers, MA, 1945 (Screenshot photo from YT video). From Ken Scheer.
711 Restored
Pat Fahey wrote, 25 January 2020:
- When Joe Cardelle went down to meet Pete Whitman, to buy his 1 inch scale 2-8-2 Mikado, Joe saw Norman Steele's No 11 Atlantic sitting in Pete's garage, the smokebox was rotten out, it needed work, etc.
- Joe asked me if I knew anything about the locomotive, but all I had were just a few photos of it at PVLS.
- Well after Joe got the 1 inch scale Mikado back under steam, he asked Pete about the Atlantic. Well, Joe offered a price, and brought the locomotive, it took about a year for Joe to get the locomotive back under steam.
Joe Cordelle wrote, 28 January 2020:
- I don't have any drawings. Norman scratch built it from Locomobile parts. He probably didn't even have any drawings. I had to re-tube the boiler.
Norman Steele's Atlantic No 711 prior to restoration.
No. 711 after restoration by Joe Cordelle.
Joe Cordelle enjoys a run on Norman Steele's fully restored Atlantic No 711.
New Haven No 711 Atlantic 4-4-2 in 1.5 inch scale, 7.25 inch gauge, built by Norman Steele, restored by Joe Cardelle. Photo by Pat Fahey.
Photo by Pat Fahey.
Photo by Pat Fahey.
Re-tubing the boiler. Photo by Joe Cordelle.
Reassembly of No. 711.
