Bagley Oil Burner - Revision history

Dnevil: /* Installation and Operation Instructions */

2026-05-29T20:07:31Z

Installation and Operation Instructions

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:07, 29 May 2026
Line 43:		Line 43:
	== Installation and Operation Instructions ==		== Installation and Operation Instructions ==

	~~Will~~ Campbell graciously allowed the IBLS to publish the installation and operation instructions provided with the Bagley Oil Burner.		[[William Campbell]] graciously allowed the IBLS to publish the installation and operation instructions provided with the Bagley Oil Burner.

	=== Bagley Burner ===		=== Bagley Burner ===

Dnevil: /* Installation on #486 */

2026-05-29T20:07:11Z

Installation on #486

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:07, 29 May 2026
Line 21:		Line 21:
	The summer months are too hot in Texas to run live steam, so we switch to indoor projects where we can escape the heat (yes I have an air conditioner in my shop!). In the summer of 2012 I determined to upgrade the oil burner in my Allen Mogul #486. It came with a [[Chet Peterson]] style round oil burner. It worked ok, but I did not like the way it was mounted. In addition, it tended to leak fuel due to the fact that some of the threads were partially stripped.		The summer months are too hot in Texas to run live steam, so we switch to indoor projects where we can escape the heat (yes I have an air conditioner in my shop!). In the summer of 2012 I determined to upgrade the oil burner in my Allen Mogul #486. It came with a [[Chet Peterson]] style round oil burner. It worked ok, but I did not like the way it was mounted. In addition, it tended to leak fuel due to the fact that some of the threads were partially stripped.

	I had read about the Bagley burner sold by ~~Will~~ Campbell on Chaski.org. So I called Will to find out more information.		I had read about the Bagley burner sold by [[William Campbell]] on Chaski.org. So I called Will to find out more information.

	He was a wealth of information. He said the Bagley burners are easy to control. They are cast out of [[Navy Brass]], which is very durable and hard. That way the steam does not "cut" the tiny orifices. There is no machining involved, it is ready to use. It requires a #8 screw to a bracket. The steam line is threaded for 3/16" and the oil line is threaded for 5/16" standard [[Coles Power Models\|Cole's Models]] taper threads. The brass needle valve I was already using would be fine for oil control. We talked about air flow on the Mogul. Mine had a plate that covered a one-inch tall gap just under the cab floor that leads into the firebox. He said I should remove the plate covering the gap. This will give it enough air. I mentioned that I would often hear oscillations with the firebox door closed. Will said this means the fire is not getting enough air.		He was a wealth of information. He said the Bagley burners are easy to control. They are cast out of [[Navy Brass]], which is very durable and hard. That way the steam does not "cut" the tiny orifices. There is no machining involved, it is ready to use. It requires a #8 screw to a bracket. The steam line is threaded for 3/16" and the oil line is threaded for 5/16" standard [[Coles Power Models\|Cole's Models]] taper threads. The brass needle valve I was already using would be fine for oil control. We talked about air flow on the Mogul. Mine had a plate that covered a one-inch tall gap just under the cab floor that leads into the firebox. He said I should remove the plate covering the gap. This will give it enough air. I mentioned that I would often hear oscillations with the firebox door closed. Will said this means the fire is not getting enough air.

Dnevil: /* Availability */

2025-05-05T18:07:46Z

Availability

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:07, 5 May 2025
Line 15:		Line 15:
	== Availability ==		== Availability ==

	Steve Nelson of [http://www.tsmtrains.com/ TMS Trains] is offering [[Bagley Oil ~~Burners~~]]. See [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?p=484048 "Bagley burner reproduction" on <i>Chaski.org</i>].		Steve Nelson of [http://www.tsmtrains.com/ TMS Trains] is offering [[Bagley Oil Burner]]s. See [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?p=484048 "Bagley burner reproduction" on <i>Chaski.org</i>].

	== Installation on #486 ==		== Installation on #486 ==

Dnevil: /* Availability */

2025-05-05T18:07:25Z

Availability

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:07, 5 May 2025
Line 15:		Line 15:
	== Availability ==		== Availability ==

	~~Will Campbell~~ of ~~Oakhurst, California has been manufacturing the burners for many years~~. ~~On 27 June 2013 Will announced on Chaski~~.~~org that he~~ is ~~turning over sales of the burners to Tom & Judy Opperman. Judy is Dick~~ Bagley~~'s granddaughter~~.		Steve Nelson of [http://www.tsmtrains.com/ TMS Trains] is offering [[Bagley Oil Burners]]. See [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?p=484048 "Bagley burner reproduction" on <i>Chaski.org</i>].

	~~You can reach Tom & Judy at 480-947-6586 or Email Judy at~~ [~~mailto~~:~~mrstraingod@yahoo~~.~~com mrstraingod@yahoo~~.~~com]~~.

	~~The burners sell for $60~~.~~00 each~~.

	== Installation on #486 ==		== Installation on #486 ==

Dnevil: /* External Links */

2025-05-05T18:04:05Z

External Links

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:04, 5 May 2025
Line 114:		Line 114:
	* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109188 "Bagley burner too hot", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109188 "Bagley burner too hot", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
	* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=108795 "Bagley burner install", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=108795 "Bagley burner install", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
			* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?p=484048 "Bagley burner reproduction", <i>Chaski.org</i>]

Dnevil: /* External Links */

2020-12-07T16:26:39Z

External Links

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:26, 7 December 2020
Line 113:		Line 113:
	* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=105187 "Oil firing with a Bagley burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=105187 "Oil firing with a Bagley burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
	* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109188 "Bagley burner too hot", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109188 "Bagley burner too hot", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
			* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=108795 "Bagley burner install", <i>Chaski.org</i>]

Dnevil: /* External Links */

2020-03-21T18:13:00Z

External Links

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:13, 21 March 2020
Line 112:		Line 112:
	* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=103813 "Bagley Burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=103813 "Bagley Burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
	* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=105187 "Oil firing with a Bagley burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=105187 "Oil firing with a Bagley burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
			* [https://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=109188 "Bagley burner too hot", <i>Chaski.org</i>]

Dnevil: /* Adjustment */

2019-12-31T21:26:07Z

Adjustment

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:26, 31 December 2019
Line 81:		Line 81:
	To light the fire, you must connect an auxiliary air supply to your <u>blower and atomizer</u>. Then use a piece of wick on a stiff length of small round rod long enough to keep your hand outside the cab. soak the wick in diesel oil first. Now light this torch and put in the firebox at the back end blow the fire-door. Open blower as much as possible without blowing out the torch. Open the firing valve (oil) for a good heavy flow of oil.		To light the fire, you must connect an auxiliary air supply to your <u>blower and atomizer</u>. Then use a piece of wick on a stiff length of small round rod long enough to keep your hand outside the cab. soak the wick in diesel oil first. Now light this torch and put in the firebox at the back end blow the fire-door. Open blower as much as possible without blowing out the torch. Open the firing valve (oil) for a good heavy flow of oil.

	Open the atomizer slowly and control the flame. when a solid heavy fire is established, remove the torch and open the blower full open. Close the fire-door and put out the torch. Watch the stack. Give the fire-box a short time to warm. then adjust oil, blower and atomizer for a good fire. it should be an incandescent bright yellow. Only a slight trace of smoke should be seen at the stack. With a good fire established, you can make final adjustment of the burner. Loosen the screw that holds the burner and tilt the burner up slowly. If you reach a point where the fire shows a ~~noticeabl eincrease~~, it is probably the best position of the burner tilt. Move past that to see if it gets better. If not, return to that as being the best. if that did not show a noticeable improvement, you already ahd the good one. Return to that and be glad. Minimum tilt is best.		Open the atomizer slowly and control the flame. when a solid heavy fire is established, remove the torch and open the blower full open. Close the fire-door and put out the torch. Watch the stack. Give the fire-box a short time to warm. then adjust oil, blower and atomizer for a good fire. it should be an incandescent bright yellow. Only a slight trace of smoke should be seen at the stack. With a good fire established, you can make final adjustment of the burner. Loosen the screw that holds the burner and tilt the burner up slowly. If you reach a point where the fire shows a noticeable increase, it is probably the best position of the burner tilt. Move past that to see if it gets better. If not, return to that as being the best. if that did not show a noticeable improvement, you already ahd the good one. Return to that and be glad. Minimum tilt is best.

	If the burner drips oil, it is a sign of not enough atomizer for the amount of oil being fed to the burner.		If the burner drips oil, it is a sign of not enough atomizer for the amount of oil being fed to the burner.
Line 89:		Line 89:
	Look at the fire and do the following: adjust the firing valve and learn the effect. Do the same with blower and atomizer until you know what each of them does. You will gradually learn what each one does and how they interact. Then, if the fire needs adjustment you will know which valve or valves to adjust and whether to open or close them. You will know what you are doing which is rather nice. If the fire blows out, close the firing valve (oil) immediately. Leave atomizer and blower valves as they are set.		Look at the fire and do the following: adjust the firing valve and learn the effect. Do the same with blower and atomizer until you know what each of them does. You will gradually learn what each one does and how they interact. Then, if the fire needs adjustment you will know which valve or valves to adjust and whether to open or close them. You will know what you are doing which is rather nice. If the fire blows out, close the firing valve (oil) immediately. Leave atomizer and blower valves as they are set.

	To relight a hot fire-box hold the lighted torch just inside the door where the mist of oil will reach it, and gradually open the firing valve to ~~maintin~~ control.		To relight a hot fire-box hold the lighted torch just inside the door where the mist of oil will reach it, and gradually open the firing valve to maintain control.

	=== Cleaning ===		=== Cleaning ===

Dnevil: /* External Links */

2017-05-12T15:30:58Z

External Links

← Older revision		Revision as of 10:30, 12 May 2017
Line 96:		Line 96:

	We have made every effort to give you a good product. We hope you will enjoy it!!		We have made every effort to give you a good product. We hope you will enjoy it!!

			== See Also ==

			* [[Valve for Oil Burner]]

	== External Links ==		== External Links ==
Line 106:		Line 110:
	* "An Easy To Build Oil Burner", Dick Bagley, <i>Live Steam</i>, November 1981		* "An Easy To Build Oil Burner", Dick Bagley, <i>Live Steam</i>, November 1981
	* "Oil Firing a Miniature Locomotive", Dick Bagley, <i>Live Steam</i>, January 1982		* "Oil Firing a Miniature Locomotive", Dick Bagley, <i>Live Steam</i>, January 1982
	* [[Valve for Oil Burner]]
	* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=103813 "Bagley Burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=103813 "Bagley Burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
	* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=105187 "Oil firing with a Bagley burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=105187 "Oil firing with a Bagley burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]

Dnevil: /* References */

2017-05-12T15:30:12Z

References

← Older revision		Revision as of 10:30, 12 May 2017
Line 97:		Line 97:
	We have made every effort to give you a good product. We hope you will enjoy it!!		We have made every effort to give you a good product. We hope you will enjoy it!!

	== ~~References~~ ==		== External Links ==

	* [http://home.fuse.net/jasdot/atomizerNozzleDesign.html "In Pursuit of a Better Atomizer Nozzle For Small Oil Burning Steam Locomotives", Jim Keith]		* [http://home.fuse.net/jasdot/atomizerNozzleDesign.html "In Pursuit of a Better Atomizer Nozzle For Small Oil Burning Steam Locomotives", Jim Keith]
Line 108:		Line 108:
	* [[Valve for Oil Burner]]		* [[Valve for Oil Burner]]
	* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=103813 "Bagley Burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]		* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=103813 "Bagley Burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]
			* [http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=105187 "Oil firing with a Bagley burner", <i>Chaski.org</i>]