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Dick Bartel, Dick Thomas, and Bill Norred discuss the backhead arrangement of the 15 inch gauge Hudson at The Goleta Valley Western Railroad. Ed Lebec is in the foreground. Photo by Rick Zobelein. From http://www.goldengatels.org/library/CallBoys/CallBoy%20October%202014%20online%20version.pdf